A comprehensive Scripture index to early Quaker writings
8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation [BT: damnation] to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. qtext
8:2 For the law of the Spirit of [T: that bringeth] life [G: +which is] in Christ Jesus [GT: through Jesus Christ] hath made me free [G: freed me; T: delivered me] from the law of sin and death. qtext
(Rom 8) IP4: 156-9
(Rom 8:1-5) IP3: 15
(Rom 8:1-4) JN3: 211, 222; IP3: 361
(Rom 8:1-3) IP4: 156
(Rom 8:1) GFJN 688; GF3: 273; GF6: 268; DGA 162; JN3: 105, 120; IPL 45; IP1: 43, 78, 321; IP2: 41; IP3: 197, 245, 368; IP4: 23, 118, 156, 183, 436; WPR 268, 618, 621; WPT 297, 313, 410 [cf Rom 8:4]
(Rom 8:1f) GF5: 252; JN3: 125; EQ 329 (BC); RBA 43; RBAF 32
(Rom 8:2-4) GF5: 95; GF6: 54f; JN2: 464
(Rom 8:2) GFJN 16, 17, 38, 60, 603; GF3: 52, 120, 121; GF4: 104f, 215; GF5: 182; GF6: 258, 442; GF7: 172, 173 , 183 , 244 , 277, 280 , 298 , 303 ; GF8: 49 , 183 , 275 ; GFEJ 438; JN1: 305; JN2: 5, 247, 257; 401 (TB); JN3: 12, 28, 38, 116, 235, 237, 248; IPL 66; IP1: 162, 166, 317; IP2: 27, 37 , 345, 348; IP3: 71, 77, 82, 163, 185, 187, 193, 210, 259, 331, 376, 387, 406f, 414, 535; IP4: 83, 117, 139, 149f, 208, 214, 224, 235, 253, 255, 368, 412, 426; TEM 18; RBA 67, 220; RBAF 51; EQ 541 (BR); HPS 324; 376, 386 (EB); WPT 210, 249
GF6:268 (1684): And the apostle Paul saith, "There is no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit [Rom 8:1]"; that is, not after the motions of the flesh, but after the motions of the spirit of God. These are they which believe in the light, which is the life in Christ, and are grafted into him [Rom 11:23].
[Other texts citing Rom 8:2: GF7:172 (1 Jn 5:11f), GF7:173 (Mat 12:30), GF7:298 (Rom 2:16), GF7:303f (Mat 11:29), GF8:183 (Rom 3:27), JN2:5 (John 1:9), JN2:246f (Rom 2:14-16), IP1:166 (Luk 11:50f), IP2:37 (Heb 8:13), RBA 220 (Rom 1:1), EQ 541f (Rev 11:3)]GFJN 17 (): The law of God takes hold upon the law of sin and death [Rom 8:2]; but the law of faith [Rom 3:27], or the law of the spirit of life [Rom 8:2], which is the love of God, and which comes by Jesus, (who is the end of the law for righteousness' sake [Rom 10:4],) makes free from the law of sin and death. This law of life fleshly-minded men do not know [Rom 8:6]; yet they will tempt you, to draw you from the spirit into the flesh, and so into bondage [2 Pet 2:18f].
GF7:280 (1666): And he that hath the son of God hath life [1Jn 5:12] eternal abiding in him; and so in this eternal life you have an eternal fellowship with God and his son, and with one another [1 Jn 1:3, 7]. And in this the law of life, that is in Jesus Christ, passeth sentence on the law of sin and death [Rom 8:2] in every man and woman, and brings it to the execution. Through which law of life righteousness flows, and runs down as a stream [Amos 5:24], and also justice and truth. Here by this law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus, (mark, in Christ Jesus,) you come to know the Lamb's throne, and the throne of iniquity [Psa 94:20] thrown down, its mouth stopped [Psa 107:42], and the chambers of imagery [Ezek 8:12] thrown down, and the household of God raised [Eph 2:19]; the fruitless trees thrown down [Luke 13:6f], and the plant of God raised up, which is of his own planting; a tree of righteousness [Isa 61:3], whose fruit is unto holiness, whose end is everlasting life [Rom 6:22].
IP2:348 (1663): Quest. 6. Then may a man be justified who never heard outwardly of Christ? Ans. If he feel the seed of life, be overcome by its nature, give up to its law, as it is made manifest in his heart, abhor the nature and law of the sin of death [Rom 8:2], and thus in soul cleave unto the Lord, and follow him as he pleaseth to lead, the Spirit and life of the Lord cannot but herein justify him; and the grace and mercy of the Lord cannot withhold giving him out his pardon for his sins past (and also pass by his future frailties), although he distinctly know not how to sue out and plead it.
IP3:82 (1668): he saith, "The law of reason ... is called a law of sin and death, it being given unto reason, because reason is sin; for there is nothing doth break the law but reason." Observ. Those that are delivered by the powerful appearance of Christ from the law of sin and death, knows it to be another law than the law of reason, even a law contrary not only to the Life of Christ, but to the reason and understanding of a man, bringing him below the state of reason, even into brutish captivity and sensuality.
TEM 18 (16–): Now also did I receive a new law – an inward law superadded to the outward – the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus [Rom 8:2], which wrought in me against all evil, not only in deed and in word, but even in thought also; so that everything was brought to judgment, and judgment passed upon all. So that I could not any longer go on in my former ways and course of life; for when I did, judgment took hold upon me for it.
RBA 67, RBAF 51 (1678, III.2, continued from under Rom 6:14): Hereunto the apostle commends the elders of the Church, saying (Acts 20:32), "And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the Word of his Grace, which is able to build you up, and to geve you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified." He doth not commend them here to outward laws or writings, but to the Word of Grace, which is inward; even the spiritual law, which makes free, as he elsewhere affirms [quotes Rom 8:2]. This spiritual law is that which the apostle declares he preached and directed people unto, which was not outward, as by Rom 10:8 is manifest [quote].....
HPS 386 (Elizabeth Bathurst, 1679): as there is a coming to this law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus [Rom 8:2] (which Law is inward, written in the heart, and engraven on the inward parts [Jer 31:33]) there is a setting free from the law of sin and death: And so we come to know a blotting out of the law of commandments contained in ordinances, and contrary to us, our lord having taken them and nailed them to his cross [Col 2:14].
8:3 For what the law could not do [G: that that was impossible to the law] , in that [GBT: inasmuch as] it was weak through [GT: because of] the flesh, God sending his own [T: that performed God and sent his] Son in the likeness [GBT: similitude] of sinful flesh, and for [BT: by] sin, condemned [T: damned] sin in the flesh: qtext
8:4 That the righteousness [T: +required] of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. qtext
(Rom 8:3) GF3: 192, 217, 469; GF4: 237; GF7: 320f ; MFS 31f; JN2: 545, 560; JN3: 471; IP2: 36; IP3: 342; WPR 361
(Rom 8:3f) MFU 155, 244; JN1: 179, 191, 375, 488f, 512; JN2: 464; EQ 319, 327 (BC); RBA 215; RBAF 162
(Rom 8:4) GF3: 61, 438; GF4: 284; JN2: 241; IP2: 39; IP3: 82, 210; IP4: 23, 58, 79, 157, 246; IPL 45; RBAF 32; WPR 467; WPT 249 [cf Rom 8:1]
GF7:320f (1668): For Christ is manifest in the flesh, to condemn the sin in the flesh [Rom 8:3], all that witness Christ in them, male and female; I say, Christ manifest in their flesh; he doth condemn the sin that is in their flesh; yea, and makes an end of sin, and finishes the transgression [Dan 9:24], and brings in everlasting righteousness unto them.... (more)
IP2:36 (1660): Was there any sin in the holy law and ministration of God by Moses? Can there any just blame be found in any thing that proceeded from the Lord? Nay, surely the ministration of Moses was holy, and without blame; but it was weak, through the flesh, Rom 8:3, and therefore God would lay that aside, so far as it was weak, and suited to the weakness of a fleshly people, and bring, instead thereof, a ministration of the law in the Spirit, which should be lively and powerful and effectual in the spirits of his people.
JN1:375 (1654): you quote Gal 3:10 and saith, there the apostle clearly holds forth a universal impossibility to fulfill the righteousness of the law, when Christ saith, "Not one jot shall fall till all be fulfilled [Mat 5:18]." And the same apostle saith (Rom 8:3f), that God sent his own Son, that the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit; and here you belie the apostle and deny the end of Crist's coming, and plead for continuing in sin and imperfection....
IP2:39 (1660): the dispensation of the law of the Spirit comprehends all the righteousness of Moses' law: and the end of Christ's dissolving that covenant was not that any might have liberty to do any thing which is there manifested to be unrighteous; but that the righteousness of it might be fulfilled in them who receive his law in the Spirit, which never could be fulfilled by receiving of Moses' law in the letter. Rom 8:4.
8:5 For they that are after the flesh [BT: carnal] do mind the things of the flesh [G: savour the things of the flesh; are carnally minded] ; but they that are after the Spirit [BT: spiritual] the things of the Spirit [BT: are spiritually (T: ghostly) minded] . qtext
8:6 For to be carnally minded [G: the wisdom of the flesh] is death; but to be spiritually minded [G: the wisdom of the spirit] is life and peace. qtext
8:7 Because the carnal mind [G: wisdom of the flesh; BT: fleshly mind] is enmity against God: for it is not subject [BT: obedient] to the law of God, neither indeed can be. qtext
(Rom 8:5-8) WPR 75
(Rom 8:5-7) JN1: 132
(Rom 8:5) IP3: 484; IP4: 157
(Rom 8:6-8) GF6: 471
(Rom 8:6) GFJN 17; GF2: 305; GF3: 505; GF6: 57; GF8: 158 , 291 ; JN1: 54, 151, 225, 482; JN2: 175, 228; WDS 107; IP2: 41; IP3: 34f, 152; IP4: 157; RBA 316; HPS 288; JWJM 176
(Rom 8:6f) GF7: 26, 27 , 39 , 45 , 175 , 243 , 255 , 257 , 273 ; GF8: 43 ; JN2: 281
(Rom 8:7) GFJN 60; GF7: 73 ; JN1: 53, 70; JN2: 232, 315; JN3: 3, 75; IP1: 26, 346; IP3: 262, 368, 522; IP4: 157; RBA 42; RBAF 31; HPS 55; JWJM 83; JSS 66, 67
(Rom 8:7f) RBA 42
[Other texts citing Rom 8:5: IP3:484 (Mar 10:15)]
IP4:157 (1671): Query 5. Do not all men act according to the principle, whether of flesh or spirit, to which their minds are joined? Do not they which are of the flesh mind, savor, approve, desire after, and delight in that which is fleshly? But they that are after the Spirit, do they not mind, savor, desire after, approve, and delight in the things of the Spirit [Rom 8:5]? Therefore is not this of great concern to all to consider, not so much what their profession and appearance is outwardly, as what their root is inwardly, and what nature, spirit, and growth, they and their religion are of?
JN2:228 (1655): whosoever receives this unity of faith [Eph 4:13] shall find this covenant sure: but this was never placed in the worldly seed, but in the spiritual; so the carnal is death and hell, that's its covenant; but the spiritual is life and peace [Rom 8:6], that's its covenant; and each covenant stands sure [cf 2 Tim 2:19] to them who are in them.
IP4:157 (1671): Query 6. What doth it produce to have the mind exercised by the flesh? Doth it not produce death? [Rom 8:6] Is not the nature, spirit, and wisdom of the flesh separated from God's nature, who is life? And can it bring forth any thing in the heart but corruption and death? But the minding of the other principle, and being exercised by the other principle, that produceth life and peace, doth it not? Let all that have inwardly experienced these things, assent and testifiy in spirit before the Lord to his praise.
GF7:273 (1665): And therefore all every where, mind the pure power of the Lord God, and the truth which first convinced you; and whatsoever is gotten up through the carnal reason [Rom 8:6f], and your eyes going from the power of God, and that which did convince you; let that be purged out of your hearts; if not, it will lift up your hearts to consultations, subtilty, questionings, reasonings, and disputes [1 Tim 6:4f]. Oh! I feel too much of that which hath gotten up into the wrong understanding part, through which wrong liberty [Gal 5:13, 2 Pet 2:19] gets up, which will bring a plague into the heart, which is worse than an outward plague [1 Ki 8:37f].
GF7:73 (1654): Wait on the Lord, he will perfect his work amongst you; he that hearkens diligently to the teacher within [Isa 55:2?], denieth all outward hireling teachers [Mic 3:11]. He that is made the temple of the holy ghost [1 Cor 6:19], placeth no holiness in the world's temples. The teachers without exalt the carnal mind [Rom 8:7], but the teacher within destroyeth it.
IP3:368 (1675): Sixthly, He that lives the Christian life, who walks not after the flesh, but after the Spirit [Rom 8:1]; who doth not fulfill the lusts of the flesh [Gal 5:16], but hath the law of God written in his heart [Jer 31:33], and his fear put within him [Jer 32:40], and his Holy Spirit given to instruct him [Neh 9:20], and to guide him to answer the holy law written in his heart, which the carnal mind is not subject to, nor can be subject to [Rom 8:7], without doubt he is spiritual; without doubt he is a true Christian.
HPS 55 (Sarah Blackborow, 1658): Oh! love truth and its testimony, whether its witness be to you, or against you; love it, that into my mother's house you all may come, and into the chamber of her that conceived me [Song 3:4], where you may embrace, and be embraced of my dearly beloved one. Love is his name, love is his nature, love is his life, surely he is the dearest and the fairest; the fool hath said in his heart he is not [Psa 14:1], he can neither see him, nor know him; the wise man's wisdom is in enmity against him [1 Cor 1:19/Rom 8:7]; the rich are too full, there's no room for him....
JWJM 83 (17–): Our minds have been turned to the improvement of our country, to merchandise and sciences, amongst which are many things useful, being followed in pure wisdom [Jas 3:17]; but in our present condition, that a carnal mind [Rom 8:7] is gaining upon us I believe will not be denied.
8:8 So then they that are in [T: given to] the flesh cannot please God. qtext
8:9 But ye are not in [T: given to] the flesh, but in [T: to] the Spirit, if so be that [G: because] the Spirit of God dwell [G: dwelleth] in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he [GBT: the same] is none of [G: not] his. qtext
8:10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness [GBT: for righteousness sake] . qtext
(Rom 8:8) MFU 38; JN1: 66, 148; JN2: 13; JN3: 99; IP3: 482, 483; IP4: 158; WPR 78
(Rom 8:9-12) JN3: 212
(Rom 8:9) GFJN 17; GF2: 345; GF3: 35, 42, 154, 157, 208, 351, 358, 368, 396, 478f; GF4: 127, 262, 283, 326, 413; GF5: 244, 295, 376f, 378, 408; GF6: 237, 249, 259, 310, 312, 406, 479; GF7: 56 , 254 ; GF8: 132 , 277 ; JN1: 132, 161, 289; JN2: 167, 250, 273, 446, 541; JN3: 105; 733 (GF); IP2: 127; IP3: 241, 494, 538; IP4: 106, 158, 168, 212, 222, 356; RBA 22, 27, 41-43, 46, 238; RBAF 17, 31, 32, 34, 36; EQ 283 (JN), 316 (BC); HPS 196; 384 (EB); WPR 268; WPT 319
(Rom 8:9f) JN3: 725 (RR)
(Rom 8:10) GF3: 39, 60, 90, 237, 265, 443; GF5: 101; GF7: 125 , 143 ; GFEJ 116; DGA 162; JN1: 10 (GF), 98, 132; JN2: 221, 462; JN3: 246; 732, 734 (GF); IP3: 207, 525; IP4: 158; EQ 241 (IP); RBAF 32
(Rom 8:10f) GF5: 95f
[Other texts citing Rom 8:8: JN1:148 (John 3:31)]
MFU 38 (to Oliver Cromwell, 1653): I charge thee in the presence of the living God to beware how thou gives way to the men of the world, who live in the flesh, which cannot please God [Rom 8:8], to make laws over the consciences of the servants of the most high God [Dan 3:26], and that thou beware of hearkening to evil counsellors, which would make a prey upon the people for their own ends, and make a man an offender for a word [Isa 29:21], fore therein thou wilt bring guilt, plagues & woe upon thy own head, for the living God of life and power is made manifest, and is kingdom is come and his will is done [Mat 6:10].
IP3:482 (1671): But that is a great mistake, to suppose I did condemn any waiting or praying, that is according to a true illumination and leading of God's Spirit; for the true light and Spirit are not separated; but the exceptions I have against the prayers of professors is, that they are so much out of the true illumination, in a light of their own apprehending, forming, and conceiving. Now these are but the limits of the fleshly birth, out of which comes nothing that is pleasing to the Father [Rom 8:8].
GFJN 17 (): For the ministry of Christ Jesus, and his teaching, bringeth into liberty and freedom; but the ministry that is of man, and by man [Gal 1:1], which stands in the will of man, bringeth into bondage, and under the shadow of death and darkness. Therefore none can be ministers of Christ Jesus but in the eternal spirit, which was before the scriptures were given forth; for if they have not his spirit, they are none of his [Rom 8:9]. Though they may have his light to condemn them that hate it [John 3:19f], yet they can never bring any into unity and fellowship in the spirit [Eph 4:3/Phil 2:1], except they be in it.... [continued under Jas 3:15]
JN1:288f (1654): Thou sayest, "none but the Pope and Quakers pretend a spirit of infallibility such as was in the apostles," whenas the Scripture saith that all the gifts of the saints are by one and the same Spirit [1 Cor 12:4], and by one Spirit were they all baptized [1 Cor 12:13]; and he that is joined to the Lord is one spirit [1 Cor 6:17]. And here I charge thee in the presence of the Lord to be a seducer, and antichrist, and led by a spirit of error [1 Jn 4:6], who hath not that infallible Spirit which was in the apostles; for whosoever hath not that Spirit is antichrist [Rom 8:9].
RBA 22 (1678, II.1): .... though there be not anything more plainly asserted, more seriously recommended, nor more certainly attested to, in all the writings of the holy Scriptures, yet nothing is less minded and more rejected by all sorts of Christians, than immediate and divine revelation ; insomuch that once to lay claim to it is a matter of reproach. Whereas of old none were ever judged Christians, but such as "had the Spirit of Christ (Rom 8:9). But now many do boldly call themselves Christians, who make no difficulty of confessing they are without it, and laugh at such as say they have it. [Continued under Rom 8:14]
HPS 383f (Elizabeth Bathurst, 1679): This is he whose ways and works are all perfect, and in him we are made complete; that is, as we are guided by his Spirit, which he gives to lead his saints into all truth, according to his promise, John 16:13f [quotes].... and this his Spirit by which people are led, is an infallible Spirit: Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ (which is infallible) he is none of his , saith the Apostle, Rom 8:9. And now if any man had, and profess to be led by this Spirit of Christ, he is made a scoff, even by the very professors of his age.
[Other texts citing Rom 8:10: JN1:10 (John 10:4)]
GF7:125 (1656): And if Christ Jesus be in you, the body of sin is dead [Rom 6:6], and ye are brought to God; and the Emmanuel being known, "God with us" [Mat 1:23] is witnessed by every one of you, that are redeemed by him out of the transgression, who are in the second Adam. So, if Christ Jesus be in you, and ye in him, the body is dead [Rom 8:10]; and ye are alive to righteousness, and death is brought into death.
IP4:158 (1671): Query 10. If Christ, the quickening Spirit [1 Cor 15:45] (the living power), be in a man, doth he not kill sin there? Is not the body dead there because of sin? [Rom 8:10] Can sin live there, where Christ dwells? And is not his Spirit life there, to quicken in and unto righteousness? Yea, is it possible that Christ should dwell in any man's heart by his Spirit, and his Spirit not be quickening the mortal body in which he dwells? [Rom 8:11]
8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead [T: death (2x)] dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that [BT: because that his spirit] dwelleth in you. qtext
8:12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. qtext
8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through [G: by; T: by the help of] the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. qtext
(Rom 8:11) GF5: 182; GF7: 56 ; MFS 24; JN1: 11 (GF), 161; JN3: 100; 588 (MS); IP4: 90, 158; RBA 43; RBAF 32, 34; HPS 386 (EB); WPR 87
(Rom 8:12) JN3: 247; IP4: 158
(Rom 8:13) GFJN 460, 699; GF4: 282, 408; GF5: 252; GF6: 176, 359; GF7: 204 , 230 ; GF8: 10 , 181 , 213 , 308 ; JN3: 119; IP1: 63; IP3: 44, 76, 191, 193, 316, 324, 538; IP4: 159, 164, 355; RBA 43, 179, 226; RBAF 8(155), 32, 136, 168; EQ 327 (BC); WPR 226; WPT 30; DFR 90
GF7:56 (1653): So, every one must witness Christ born in them, passing through death to him, through the world, through the law, through temptations, through the wilderness, and out of the world; and the son of God ye will witness to arise, who doth overcome, who was born of God. And the same spirit, that raised up Jesus Christ, the same spirit raiseth you up, and quickeneth your mortal bodies [Rom 8:11]; and he that hath not the same, is none of his [Rom 8:9].
JN3:588 (Martha Simmonds, 1656): Oh you noble hearts! It is you that are fit to entertain Christ in his reign, for in your obedience the precious springs of life doth open in you, and pure consolation you feel, songs of joy and triumph, and the Father, Son and Spirit meets in you; then hath the soul liberty from the devouring enemy. As the pure Spirit gets victory over the evil spirit, so the Spirit of Christ comes to reign in your mortal bodies [Rom 8:11], then comes the showers of grace as the morning dew, which bathes your souls in the blood of the Lamb, and waters the tender plant in you.
IP4:158 (1671): Query 11. To which are we debtors, who are redeemed to God by his Spirit and power? Are we debtors to the flesh [Rom 8:12], to live after the flesh, which brings into bondage to sin and death? Or are we debtors to that Spirit and power of life, which hath made us alive to God, and preservethy us in life, and quickeneth unto life, day by day?
GFJN 699 (to Charles II, 1674): The Spirit of Christ brings us to seek the peace and good of all men, and to live peaceably; and leads us from such evil works and actions as the magistrates' sword [Rom 13:4] takes hold upon. Our desire and labour is, that all who profess themselves Christians may walk in the Spirit of Christ; that they, through the Spirit, may mortify the deeds of the flesh [Rom 8:13], and by the sword of the Spirit [Eph 6:17] cut down sin and evil in themselves. Then the judges and other magistrates would not have so much work in punishing sin in the kingdom; neither then need kings or princes fear any of their subjects; if they all walked in the Spirit of Christ; for the fruits of the Spirit are love, righteousness, goodness, temperance, etc. [Gal 5:22f]
IP3:44 (1667): Query 31. What is it to have, or how come we to have, fellowship with Christ in his death [Phil 3:10], and to suffer and be crucified with him [Gal 2:20]? Is it by having our natural bodies crucified on the same cross of wood (or some such like one) as his body was crucified on, or by having the fleshly nature crucified, subdued, and worn out of our souls, minds, spirits, &c., by the power of the Spirit? Rom 8:13.
WPR 226, WPT 30 (1668): No man can be dead and justified before God, for so he may be justified that lives after the flesh; therefore they only can be justified that are alive; from whence this follows, if the living are justified and not the dead, and that none can live to God, but such as have mortified the deeds of the body through the Spirit [Rom 8:13], then none can be justified but they who have mortified the deeds of the body through the Spirit; so that justification does not go before, but is subsequential to the mortification of lusts, and sanctification of the soul through the Spirit's operation.
8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. qtext
(Rom 8:14-30) MFU 191
(Rom 8:14-17) GF2: 324; JN1: 298 (RF)
(Rom 8:14-16) GF5: 182; JN1: 128
(Rom 8:14) GF3: 40, 57, 97, 140, 526; GF4: 282, 310, 326, 361; GF6: 249, 255, 324; GF7: 50 , 220 , 244 , 321 ; GF8: 171 , 189 , 229 , 279 , 287 ; GFEJ 238, 388; MFS 33; JN1: 113, 136, 165, 228, 380; JN2: 62, 99, 168, 200, 263; JN3: 65, 98, 106, 212, 247, 442, 524, 755; IP1: 316; IP4: 133, 159; RBA 22, 27, 44, 63, 238; RBAF 5(46), 17, 34; EQ 316 (BC); HPS 328; 389 (EB); WPR 60, 87, 226, 239, 268, 283, 323, 618; WPT 30, 38, 54, 150, 297, 387 ; JWJM 208; DFR 10
(Rom 8:14f) WPT 322
[Other texts citing Rom 8:14-17: JN1:298 (Mat 3:16f)]
GF6:248f (1684): And the Lord poureth out of his spirit upon all flesh, both men and women [Joel 2:28], that with his spirit they might all know God and Christ, and the things of God [1 Cor 2:11], and to be led by the Spirit of God, that they may be his sons and daughters [Rom 8:14]....
GF8:229 (1682): And keep the unity and fellowship in the holy spirit of God, which is the bond of peace [Eph 4:3] amongst all God's children, that are led by his holy spirit [Rom 8:14], whose communion and fellowship is in the holy ghost [2 Cor 13:14/Phil 2:1], by which ye are led into all truth [John 16:13].
JN3:65 (1656): in vain do all worship, whose fear and service towards God is taught by the precepts of men [Isa 29:13]; for all the children of the Lord are taught of the Lord [Isa 54:13]. And they are the sons of God who are led by the Spirit of God [Rom 8:14]. And such hearken to the Lord and know his voice [John 10:4]; and what they see and hear, that they do [Phil 4:9], and do not offer the sacrifice of fools [Eccl 5:1].
IP1:316 (1660): That which is begotten by God is a son; and the son, as he is begotten by the breath of the spirit, so he is preserved and led by the same breath; and such as are so led, are sons, ande none else; for it is not reading of scriptures, and gathering rules out thence, that makes a son, but the receiving of the spirit, and the being led by the spirit. Rom 8:14-15.
RBA 22 (1678, II.1): [Continued from under Rom 8:9] Of old they were accounted "the sons of God, who were led by the Spirit of God" (Rom 8:14). But now many aver themselves sons of God, who know nothing of this leader; and he that affirms himself so led is, by the pretended orthodox of this age, presently proclaimed a heretic.
WPR 226, WPT 30 (1668): How clearly will it appear to any but a caviling and tenacious spirit, that man can be no farther justified, than as he becomes obedient to the Spirit's leadings; for if none can be a son of God, but he that's led by the Spirit of God [Rom 8:14], then none can be justified without being led by the Spirit of God, because none can be justified but he that is a son of God: so that the way to justification and sonship is through obedience to the Spirit's leadings, that is, manifesting the holy fruits thereof by an innocent life and conversation.
JWJM 208 (1754): Are we they whose minds are opened, influenced, and governed by the spirit of Christ and thereby made sons of God [Rom 8:14]? Is it not a fair conclusion that we, like our Heavenly Father, ought in our degree to be active in the same great cause—of the eternal happiness of at least our whole families, and more, if thereto capacitated?
DFR 10 (17–) : The apostolic doctrine of "Christ within," and of being "led by the Spirit of God [Rom 8:14]," was denied by the [Presbyterian] priest and many of the people, who appeared to have little sense of a divine Teacher in themselves, but asserted that revelation had now ceased, and no such thing was to be experienced in this day.
8:15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear [T: to fear anymore] ; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. qtext
8:16 The Spirit itself [GBT: same Spirit] beareth witness with [T: certifieth] our spirit, that we are the children [BT: sons] of God: qtext
8:17 And if [GBT: +we be] children [BT: sons] , then [GBT: + we are also] heirs; heirs [G: even the heirs; T: the heirs I mean] of God, and joint-heirs [GT: heirs annexed] with Christ; if so be [B: So] that we suffer with him [BT: together] , that we may be also glorified together [G: with him] . qtext
(Rom 8:15-17) GF8: 172 , 287 ; GFEJ 378; JWJM 208
(Rom 8:15) GF4: 284; JN2: 251; JN3: 251,435, 750; IP1: 316; IP3: 150, 385; IP4: 132; RBAF 32; HPS 371 (EB); JSS 7, 34, 42; SIW 109
(Rom 8:15f) DGA 130; RBA 43, 71; RBAF 32
(Rom 8:16) GF3: 362; JN1: 131; RBA 37, 72; RBAF 27f, 34, 55; HPS 371 (EB); WPR 611; WPT 276; JWJM 199 [cf Rom 8:21, 9:8]
(Rom 8:16f) GF6: 120f ; IP4: 159; HPS 464
(Rom 8:17) GF3: 171; GF4: 67, 251; GF5: 95, 107; GF7: 63 , 107 , 285 ; GF8: 26 , 40 ; JN2: 442, 453, 454; JN3: 88; JN3: 729, 731 (WT); IP4: 351; EQ 327 (BC); HPS 316; WPR 73, 239; WPT 54, 206; JSS 7, 19, 28, 45, 60, 63
JWJM 208 (1754): If we, by the operation of the Spirit of Christ, become heirs with him in the kingdom of the Father [Rom 8:15-17], and are redeemed from the alluring counterfeit joys of this world, and the joy of Christ remain in us; to suppose that one remaining in this happy condition can, for the sake of earthly riches, not only deprive his fellow creatures of the sweetness of freedom (which, rightly used, is one of the greatest temporal blessings), but therewith neglect using proper means for their acquaintance with the Holy Scriptures and the advantage of true religion, seems, at least, a contradiction to reason.
JSS 42 (17–): ...that babe of life, that true child of God, that cries "Abba, Father [Rom 8:15]," is never brought forth, but through a union of the two seeds, the human and divine.
SIW 109 (Priscilla Hannah Gurney, 18–): By renewals of this precious experience [the Lord's prayer, Mat 6:9-13], I attained to the knowledge of that true prayer, which may be performed with or without the medium of words, according to the dictates and meditation of the spirit of Christ, which only can enable us rightly to cry, "Abba, Father [Rom 8:15]"....
[Other texts citing Rom 8:16: JWJM 198f (Mat 12:48-50)]
GF3:362 (1659): And man's spirit in the fall is polluted, and his body; but as the light is believed in, and the mind changed, his spirit and body are sanctified [1 Th 5:23], and so he comes to be a child of the light [John 12:36], and "his spirit witnesseth with our spirits that we are the sons of God [Rom 8:16]."
RBA 37, RBAF 26f (1678, II.8): But if anyone should pertinaciously affirm that [phrases "And God said", "And the word of the Lord came", &c.] did import an outward audible voice to the carnal ear ; I would gladly know what other argument such a one could bring ..., saving his own simple conjecture. It is said indeed, "The Spirit witnesseth our spirit" (Rom 8:16); but not to our outward ears. And seeing the Spirit of God is within us, and not without us, it speaks to our spiritual, and not to our bodily ear.
HPS 464 (Anne Gilman,1662): I am even constrained to let forth my love unto you, which know the washing in the blood of the covenant [Exo 24:8/Rev 1:5], and are made partakers of an everlasting inheritance [Col 1:12], who have the witness in yourselves [1 Jn 5:10] that you are his children; and not only children, but heirs, and joint-heirs with Christ [Rom 8:16f]; For, as we suffer with him, we shall also reign with him [2 Tim 2:12]; and though in the world we pass through great tribulations; yet abiding in Him which overcomes [John 16:33], here is our peace and safety known....
GF7:285 (1667): Therefore all are to learn of Christ, the light, the life, and the truth, that you may come to that condition, to have learned in all conditions to be content [Phil 4:11], and not to trust in uncertain riches [1 Tim 6:17], for they have wings and will flee away [Prov 23:5]. And so he is never counted a wise man, that will put any confidence in that which will flee away from him; for those are the heirs of the earth and the world, that load themselves with thick clay [Hab 2:6], that they may set their nests on high [Hab 2:9]; but they that be heirs with Christ [Rom 8:17], and of the power of an endless life [Heb 7:16], trust in the living God [1 Tim 6:17], and come to possess an everlasting inheritance ... and there lay up riches that are everlasting, which will abide for ever [Mat 6:20].
JN2:454 (1655): it is the longsuffering of Christ that leads to repentance; and we know that none can be heirs of his glory but who suffer with him [Rom 8:17], neither can any suffer with him but by the sense of his sufferings which he suffered in his own person, who is the everlasting sacrifice; for of ourselves, without him in us, we can do nothing [John 15:5]; but as he is the doer and sufferer in us.
8:18 For I reckon [G: count; B: am certainly persuaded; T: suppose] that the sufferings this present time [B: this time; T: this life] are not worthy to be compared with [GBT: of] the glory which shall be revealed in [G: shewed unto; BT: shewed upon] us. qtext
8:19 For the earnest expectation [GBT: fervent desire] of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God [GBT: abideth looking when the sons of God shall appear (G: be revealed)] . qtext
8:20 For the creature was made [GB: creature is; T: creatures are] subject [T: subdued] to vanity, not willingly [G: not of its own will; B: not willing; T: against their will] , but by reason of him [B: for him; T: for his will] who hath subjected [G: hath subdued; T: subdueth] the same in [G: it under: T: them in] hope,
8:21 Because the creature itself [B: For the same creature; T: for the very creatures] also shall be delivered [B: made free] from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children [GBT: sons] of God. qtext
(Rom 8:18-26) DGA 61, 69, 130, 158
(Rom 8:18) GF3: 11 (EB); GF5: 239; GF6: 120f; MFU 377; IP4: 159; WPR 72
(Rom 8:18f) GF5: 233
(Rom 8:19) GF6: 436; MFU 221; JN2: 314
(Rom 8:21) GF3: 85, 165, 269, 295, 383, 464; GF4: 187, 223, 226, 236; GF6: 67, 436; GF7: 206 , 219 , 244 ; GF8: 172 , 187 , 194 ; GFEJ 386; MFS 88f, 93, 94; MFU 126, 211, 221, 237, 376; JN1: 267; JN3: 53, 435; IP1: 23, 50, 88, 273; IP2: 217, 219, 274f; IP3: 190, 330; EQ 115 (JN); HPS 123, 127; 370, 401 (EB); SBD 6; JSS 33
(Rom 8:21f) GF3: 269; GF4: 320; GF6: 4; MFS 31; EQ 313
GF3:11f (Edward Burrough, 1659): And after our long seeking the Lord appeared to us, and revealed his glory in us [Rom 8:18], and gave us of his spirit from heaven, and poured it upon us [Joel 2:28], and gave us of his wisdom to guide us, whereby we saw all the world, and the true state of things, and the true condition of the church in her present estate.
MFU 377 (1664): Your redemption and perfection hath been purchased at a dear rate; no corruptible perishing thing could purchase it; but the precious blood of Christ Jesus [1 Pet 1:18f], who hath given himself a ransom for you [1 Tim 2:6]: Let this precious redemption be precious unto you, and value not the sufferings of this present time with it; for they are not worthy to be compared to it [Rom 8:18].
GF5:233 (1676): And in Rom 8:18, "I count the afflictions of this present time are not worthy of the glory which shall be revealed in us [Rom 8:18G/K]:" now mark, this glory was to be revealed, which was not then revealed, but it shall be revealed; therefore, can you be partakers of any of this glory, but by revelation? For the fervent desire of the creature waiteth when the Son of God should be revealed [Rom 8:19G]. Now mark, doth any know this state of the Son of God, but by the revelation of God? If you say you do, you know it; by another spirit and way than the apostles did, which cannot be the true birth, but the birth born of the flesh, which will persecute him that is born of the spirit [Gal 4:29], which we have felt sufficiently of.
GF3:383 (1659): The work of the ministers of the gospel was not to reflect upon persons, or strike at creatures, ... but they struck at the power which captivated the creature, to the intent that the creature might come into the liberty of the sons of God [Rom 8:21]. And ... that which strikes at the power which captivates creatures, reacheth to the witness in prison [1 Jn 5:10/1 Pet 3:19], and brings people into unity with God and one another in the spirit, which is the bond of peace [Eph 4:3].
IP1:273 (1659): [The false spirit] hath his false liberty. There is a glorious liberty [Rom 8:21] in the gospel: there is a perfect freedom in the service of the life; there is a liberty in the power of the life over all the creatures. God made all things for man, and he denies him nothing; he being in subjection to him in the life, and using all in the dominion of the life. Now the devil paints a liberty like this; yea, a liberty that seems greater than this, even the liberty wherein the fleshly part [Gal 5:13] (whose very nature is eternally shut out of the nature of true liberty) hath scope.... which paint the true liberty takes off, slaying that which calls it liberty, and gathering ... from this false appearance, to that which is liberty indeed..... The perfection of the true liberty lies ... in the perfect binding down of that which is out of the life....
EQ 115 (James Nayler, 1658): The Lamb's War is not against the creation, for then should his weapons be carnal, as the weapons of the worldly spirits are [2 Cor 10:4], for we war not with flesh and blood, nor against the creation of God, that we love, but we fight against the spiritual powers of wickedness [Eph 6:12], which wars against God in the creation and captivates the creation into the lust which wars against the soul [1 Pet 2:11], and that the creature may be delivered into its liberty, prepared for the sons of God [Rom 8:21]. And this is not against love, nor everlasting peace, but that without which there can be no true love nor lasting peace.
8:22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth [GBT: every creature groaneth with us also] and travaileth in pain together until now [G: unto this present; BT: even unto this time] . qtext
8:23 And not only they [G: the creature] , but ourselves [GB: we; T: even we] also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within [G: even we do sigh in; B: we ourselves mourn in; T: mourn in] ourselves, waiting [BT: and wait] for the adoption, to wit [GB: even; T: and look for] , the redemption [BT: deliverance] of our body [T: bodies] . qtext
8:24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for [GBT: how can a man hope for that which he seeth] ?
8:25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
(Rom 8:22) JN1: 85, 531; EQ 313 RBA 95; JWJM 174, 183
(Rom 8:22f) GFJN 15; GF3: 269; IP1: 88; 88; JSS 33
(Rom 8:23) GF3: 354; GF6: 41; GF8: 72 ; JN2: 285, 291, 313f; JSS 46
EQ 313 (Samuel Fisher, 1661): The chains which the angels who kept not their first estate, are reserved in, are the same under which men, who kept not their first estate, are also reserved under darkness, unto the judgement of the great day [Jude 1:6], and that is the darkness itself, into which they are both gone forth from the light,... in the deceitful counsels of their own hearts [Prov 12:5/Jer 7:24], in their own corruptions, under the bondage of which [Rom 8:21] the whole creation groans, and travels [=travails] in pain together to be delivered [Rom 8:22]....
JWJM 183 (1772): Stagecoaches frequently go upwards of a hundred miles in 24 hours, and I have heard Friends say in several places that it is common for horses to be killed with hard driving.... These coaches running chief part of the night do often run over foot people in the dark. Postboys pursue their business, each one to his stage, all night through the winter... and at several places I have heard of their being froze to death. So great is the hurry in the spirit of this world [1 Cor 2:12] that in aiming to do business quick and to gain wealth the creation at this day doth loudly groan [Rom 8:22]!
[Other texts citing Rom 8:22f: GFJN 15 (Rom 8:26)]
IP1:87f (1658): There was a spirit, soul, or image of God brought forth, and standing in his life, before the fall. This soul was brought into death, under the burthen and bondage of corruption [Rom 8:21], out of its proper center and resting-place, by the fall. Now as there is in this state a true loss, so there is in this spirit a sensibleness, a groaning under the burden, a feeling the bitterness of the captivity, and panting after redemption and restoration to its former state [Rom 8:22f].... For the soul, by any imagination or notion or feeling of a center in the corrupt mind [1 Tim 6:5], cannot be healed or restored; but only by having the true life raised up again in it, and itself brought into its proper place and mansion in the fountain of life [Psa 36:9].
GF6:41 (1679): And the Jews, in the old covenant, brought all their first fruits, and offered them to the priests [Exo 23:19]; so there was a feast of the first fruits [Exo 23:16]. But in the New Testament and covenant of light and grace, they do offer the first fruits of the spirit [Rom 8:23], that which the spirit inspires them with, or reveals to them; which spirit hath ploughed up the fallow ground of their hearts [Hos 10:12], and so they sow to the spirit, and of the spirit reap life [Gal 6:8]....
JSS 46 (17–): [quotes Rom 8:23] It is sometimes long before the entire adoption, before the sonship is so thoroughly completed, as to allow the soul to speak boldly of the full redemption of the body; redemption of all that belongs to the man, every propensity, and every thought and motion.
8:26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for [G: to pray; BT: to desire] as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession [G: request; B: great intercession; T: intercession mightily] for us with groanings [G: sighs] which cannot be uttered [GB: expressed; T: expressed with tongue] . qtext
8:27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind [GBT: meaning] of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession [G: request] for the saints according to the will [BT: pleasure] of God. qtext
(Rom 8:26) GFJN 15; GF4: 283; GF5: 187, 253; GF7: 133 , 220 , 230 , 325 ; GF8: 65 ; MFU 187; JN1: 228, 494; IP1: 15, 259; IP3: 293, 309, 451, 482, 483; IP4: 427; TEM 22; RBA 180; RBAF 32, 37, 137-139, 263; HPS 261; WPR 142; SBD 103; WTG 105 (SM); JWJM 102
(Rom 8:26f) GF4: 123; GF6: 323, 398, 409, 434; IPL 28; IP2: 106; IP3: 171; IP4: 165; EQ 328 (BC); RBA 333; RBAF 290
(Rom 8:27) GF3: 271; JN1: 498 [cf Jer 17:10]
[Other texts citing Rom 8:26: GF4:283 (Mat 26:41), GF7:133 (Mat 23:14), GF8:65 ( Heb 4:16,  Mat 13:29) JN1:228f (John 14:13f), JN1:494 (Mat 23:14), IP1:15 (Gen 3:14), IP3:483 (Jas 4:3), IP4:427 (Mat 18:20), RBA 180 (Rom 2:7) WPR 142 (John 3:6), WTG 105 (Heb 7:25)]
GFJN 15 (): I discerned the groans of the spirit, which opened me, and made intercession to God: in which spirit is the true waiting upon God, for the redemption of the body, and of the whole creation. [Rom 8:26, 22f] By this true spirit, in which the true sighing is, I saw over the false sighings and groanings.
MFU 187 (1656): ....there is the true groans and sighs of the spirit which cannot be uttered [Rom 8:26], and there is false groans, & there is true mourning in Sion [Isa 61:3], & there is Esau weeping for his birthright [Gen 27:38], & there is true promise which the ransomed gives when he returns to Sion, with the song of deliverance upon his head [Isa 51:11/Psa32:7], & there is the false singing, & this I know eternally....
IP3:482 (1671): Prayer is a gift; and he that receiveth it, must first come to the sense of his own inability, and so wait to receive; and perhaps begin but with a groan or sigh from the true Spirit [Rom 8:26], and thus grown in ability from the same Spirit, denying the ability which is after the flesh: this latter abounds in many, who mistake and err in judgment, not waiting on the Lord, to be enabled by him rightly to judge and distinguish between flesh and spirit....
HPS 361 (Joan Vokins, 1691): ...in taking up the daily cross [Luk 9:23], I found power to preserve me from looking out [Eccl 12:3?] at my affliction of body, whcen sorely exercised in mind, ready to sink under the oppression of it; had not the Spirit of Truth, the Comforter [John 15:26], helped my infirmities, and taught me, I had never have known how to pray as I ought [Rom 8:26]....
SBD 103 (1750): ...the same spirit which assisted us in the ministry will likewise in prayer, without the help of which we can perform neither as we ought [Rom 8:26].
JWJM 102 (17–): Entering upon this visit appeared weighty, and before I left home my mind was often sad, under which exercise I felt at times that Holy Spirit which helps our infirmities [Rom 8:26], through which in private my prayers at times were put up to God...
GF6:434f (1689): [quotes Rom 8:26f] Now here you may see the apostle doth not say it was outward forms ... that did help their infirmities, nor turn them to the prayer books to help their infirmities, or make intercession for them; but he plainly tells them the spirit did help their infirmities, and makes intercession for them according to the will of God, who knows the mind of the spirit; for the spirit which he pours upon them [Joel 2:28], people have always with them, but the book they may not always have with them, but the spirit they have always with them by sea and land, and night and day, to help their infirmities, and make intercession for them, if they do not err from it, and rebel against it.
RBA 333, RBAF 290 (1678, XI.22): ... this necessity of the Spirit's moving and concurrence appears abundantly from that of the apostle Paul [quotes Rom 8:26f].... Which first, holds forth the incapacity of men, as of themselves, to pray or call upon God in their own wills.... Secondly, it holds forth that which can only help and assist men to pray, to wit the Spirit, as that without which they cannot do it acceptably to God nor beneficially to their own souls. Thirdly, the manner and way of the Spirit's intercession, with "sighs and groans which are unutterable." And fourthly, that God receiveth graciously the prayers of such as are presented and offered unto himself by the Spirit, knowing it to be according to his will.
GF3:271 (1659): And that which searcheth the heart [Rom 8:27], is that which gave forth the scriptures, which led all the holy men of God to speak them forth [2 Pet 1:21], who is the Lord, the searcher of the hearts [Jer 17:10]. Which spirit owns all the words of the scriptures of truth [Dan 10:21] declared forth from the spirit; but the spirit was before the scripture was given forth.
8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to [GBT: the best unto] them that love God, to them who are the [BT: which also are] called according to his purpose. qtext
8:29 For whom he did foreknow [GBT: those which he knew before] , he also did predestinate [T: ordained before] to be conformed to the image [G: to be made like to the image; BT: that they should be like fashioned unto the shape] of his Son, that he might be the firstborn [B: first begotten; T: first begotten son] among many brethren. qtext
8:30 Moreover whom he did predestinate [T: which he appointed before] , them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. qtext
(Rom 8:28) GFJN 277; GF2: 337; GF7: 9f [Tes] GF8: 122 , 194 ; GFEJ 392; MFU 417; JN3: 300; IP3: 513; EQ 190; HPS 291, 306, 466, 468, 497; SBD 61, 86; WTG 271 (EH); JWJM 255; SIW 99
(Rom 8:29) GF3: 581; GF5: 96; GF6: 92, 97, 99, 175; GF7: 34 ; GF8: 55 , 262 ; MFU 173; JN1: 50, 168, 236; JN3: 725 (RR); IP1: 241; IP3: 101, 206; TEM 133; EQ 307; HPS 357, 381 (EB)
(Rom 8:30) RBA 187, 188; RBAF 143; WPT 36
IP3:513 (1676): Oh, the beauty and glory of the day of our God increaseth upon his heritage, blessed be the name of the Lord! And to what tend all the workings of the contrary spirit and power, but to eat out its own interest and kingdom, through the Lord's blessed ordering of things; so that all things work together for good [Rom 8:28], and for the advancing of truth, and the growth of it in the hearts of God's heritage.
HPS 306 (Susannah Blandford, 1700): All that would know the true God, in the heavenly still voice [1 Ki 19:12], and the Prophet, of which Moses and the Lord your God shall raise up, him shall you hear [Deut 18:15], and him do we hear, and have learned subjection to his will thereby, and well knowing, all things work together for good [Rom 8:28]: and have this to say to all true Christian Friends, be of good courage [Psa 27:14, many other places], fear not the reproach of men [Isa 51:7], there is nothing come to pass but what was for a trial for us, ... it is a cloud God suffereth to rise, and the wind shall blow away the chaff [Psa 1:4], but he will gather the wheat thereby [Mat 3:12] nearer together....
SBD 86 (1750): ... all things will work together for our good [Rom 8:28], because our standing is in the love and fear of God, and in it we labour by inspiration, as ambassadors of Christ [2 Cor 5:20], to make full proof of our ministry for the convincing of gainsayers [Tit 1:9], and to build up the believers in that most holy faith [Jude 1:20], the fruit whereof is righteousness and godly living. [see also under John 2:1-11]
JWJM 24f (17 ): Those who are so redeemed from the love of the world as to possess nothing in a selfish spirit, their "life is hid with Christ in God" [Col 3:3], and these he preserves in resignedness, even in times of commotion. As they possess nothing but what pertains to his family, anxious thoughts about wealth or dominion hath little or nothing in them to work upon, and they learn contentment in being disposed of according to his will who, being omnipotent and always mindful of his children, causeth all things to work for their good [Rom 8:28]. But where that spirit which loves riches works, and in its working gathers wealth and cleaves to customs which have thir root in self-pleasing, this spirit, thus separating from universal love, seeks help from that power which stands in the separation; and whatever name it hath, it still desires to defend the treasures thus given.
MFU 173 (1656): Dear brother, in the purest love which endureth for ever do I write unto thee, that unto my own I may reach which is one in all, the same forever more: who is manifested in his eternal Spirit, the first fruits [1 Cor 15:23] and the first born amongst many brethren [Rom 8:29], who is gathering in his elected seed into his fold, which is the seed of the promise, children not of the bondwoman but of the free [Gal 4:31]....
IP3:206 (1672): He saith, he fears a snake in this green grass, when I say, From his life, virtue, and power revealed in us, is our conformity to him. Ans. It were better and safer for him to fear at home; for the snake is in his own grass, and many notional, high, soaring expressions, without true knowledge. But can there be any conformity to Christ without his life, virtue, and power inwardly revealed? What else can conform uto, and bring forth in, the image and likeness of Christ [Rom 8:29]?
TEM 133 (1665?): There having been some time before this a very severe law made against the Quakers by name, and more particularly prohibiting our meetings under the sharpest penalties of five pounds for the first offence so called, ten pounds for the second, and banishment for the third... which law was looked upon to have been procured by the bishops in order to bring us to a conformity to their way of worship I wrote a few lines in the way of dialogue between a Bishop and an Quaker, which I called
CONFORMITY, PRESSED AND REPRESSED
B. What! You are one of them that do deny
To yield obedience by conformity?
Q. Nay: we desire conformable to be.
B. But unto what? Q. The Image of the Son. [Rom 8:29]
B. What's that to us? We'll have conformity
Unto our form. Q. Then we shall ne'er have done.
For, if your fickle minds should alter, we
Should be to seek a new conformity.
Thus, who to-day conform to Prelacy
To-morrow may conform to Popery.
But take this for an answer, Bishop, we
Cannot conform either to them or thee;
For while to truth your forms are opposite,
Who'er conforms thereto doth not aright.
B. We'll make such knaves as you conform, or lie
Confined in prisons till ye rot and die.
Q. Well, gentle Bishop, I may live to see,
For all thy threats, a check to cruelty;
And thee rewarded with thy envious crew
According as unto your work is due,
But in the meantime, I, for my defence,
Betake me to my fortress, Patience.
RBA 187, RBAF 143 (1678, VII.7): Secondly, in that excellent saying of the apostle, ... (Rom 8:30), "Whom he called, them he also justified, and whom he justified, them he also glorified": this is commonly called the "golden chain," as being acknowledged to comprehend the method and order of salvation. And therefore, if "justified" were not understood here in its proper signification, of being made just, sanctification would be excluded out of this chain. And truly it is very worthy of observation, that the apostle ... makes the word "justified" to comprehend all betwixt calling and glorifying; thereby clearly insinuating that the being really righteous is that only medium by which from our calling we pass to glorification.
8:31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us [GBT: on our side] , who can be against us? qtext
8:32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up [GBT: gave him] for us all [G: + to death] , how shall he not with him also freely [GBT: omit] give us all things? qtext
8:33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect [GBT: chosen] ? It is God that justifieth. qtext
8:34 Who is he that condemneth [GBT: shall (B: can) condemn] ? It is Christ that died [GT: is dead] , yea rather, that is risen [B: raised] again, who is even [GBT: also] at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession [G: request] for us. qtext
(Rom 8:31) SIW 41
(Rom 8:31f) DGA 130; WPR 221; WPT 20
(Rom 8:32-34) GF5: 96
(Rom 8:33) GF3: 517, 530; JN1: 510
(Rom 8:33f) IP4: 299
(Rom 8:34) GF8: 29 ; RBA 180; RBAF 137-139
SIW 41 (Lydia Rawlinson Lancaster, 1743): ...yet if in such difficult circumstances, which mostly make people flee to the Lord, we then upon search find he is on our side, does not this fortify us more than all worldly comforts could do without this? For if he be for us who can be against us? [Rom 8:31]
WPR 221f, WPT 20 (1668): [Context: The vulgar doctrine of satisfaction, being dependent on the second person of the imagined Trinity, refuted from Scripture.] 10. If God be for us, who can be against us? He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all [Rom 8:31f]. Which evidently declares it to be God's act of love, otherwise if he must be paid, he should be at the charge of his own satisfaction, for he delivered up the Son.
GF3:516f (1659): [He saith] "That the believers, even the real godly, are not without sin in this life." A. Here is one that is charging the elect, and laying sin to the elect that God justifies, Rom 8:33, that in the godly there should be sin. Sin is out of the godly, but in the ungodly, who turn the grace of God into wantonness [Jude 1:4]; and what good doth his preaching do them, if they must never be without sin whilst they are upon earth, they can be but in their sin if [he] never preach to them.
[Other texts citing Rom 8:34: RBA 180 (Rom 2:7) ]
GF8:29 (1670): Yea, Christ is able to deliver out of the six troubles, and the seventh trouble [Job 5:19], the perfection of trouble; he who is the perfection itself, so he is the deliverer [Rom 11:26] and mediator [1 Tim 2:5], and the intercessor [Rom 8:34], that makes peace betwixt you and God.
8:35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress [GBT: anguish] , or persecution, or famine [BT: hunger] , or nakedness, or peril, or sword? qtext
8:36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted [GBT: counted] as sheep for the slaughter [T: appointed to be slain] . qtext
xref [cf Psa 44:22]
8:37 Nay [GBT: Nevertheless] , in all these things we are more than conquerors [B: overcome; T: overcome strongly] through him [T: his help] that loved us. qtext
8:38 For I am persuaded [BT: sure] , that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities [BT: rule] , nor powers [BT: power] , nor things present, nor things to come, qtext
8:39 Nor height, nor depth [T: lowth] , nor any other creature, shall be able to separate [T: depart] us from the love of God, which is [T: shewed] in Christ Jesus our Lord. qtext
(Rom 8:35-39) GF4: 308; GF6: 121; GF7: 201 , 239 ; GF8: 122 , 124 , 127 , 216 , 248 , 255 ; IP2: 498; RBA 220; EQ 329, 33 (BC)
(Rom 8:35) IPL 41; IP4: 408
(Rom 8:36) GF3: 6 (EB); LB (X4); MFS 54; WPR 577; WPT 360 [cf Psa 44:22]
(Rom 8:37) GF3: 160, 183; MFU 230; JN2: 447; WDS 301; IP1: 128, 318; RBA 472; RBAF 430
(Rom 8:38f) GF7: 162 , 201f , 265 , 276 ; GF8: 28 , 41 , 199 , 255 ; GFEJ 201, 396; MFU 224, 272; RBA 59, 228; RBAF 169; HPS 144; 376 (EB), 466
(Rom 8:39) GFJN 311; MFU 422; JN2: 230; IP4: 352; HPS 185; SIW 173
[Other texts citing Rom 8:35-39: RBA 220 (1 Jn 3:4)]
GF8: 127 (1676): Dear friends, —In the love of God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, look above all your outward sufferings, and him that is out of truth [John 8:44], that makes you to suffer; and let nothing separate you from the love of God which you have in Christ Jesus [Rom 8:38f], by whom all things were made [John 1:3]: [continued under John 4:14]
[Other texts citing Rom 8:35: IP4:408 (Mat 15:32)]
[Other texts citing Rom 8:36: MFS 54 (Heb 2:10)]
GF3:6 (Edward Burrough, 1659): what though all sorts of people, from the prince upon his throne to the beggar upon the dung-hill [1 Sam 2:8], exalt themselves against the despised people of the Lord's inheritance, who for his name's sake, are killed all the day long [Rom 8:36, Psa 44:22]?
GF3:160 (1659): P. He saith, ... "The people of God are more than conquerors [Rom 8:37] in the Lord, which gives them rest and peace in the midst of their wars...." A. ...such as are more than conquerors, see the end of wars, and that which causeth wars. He that is a conqueror may be in the war; but he that is more than a conqueror, is in that which takes away the occasion of wars, and is come to that which was before wars were.
IP1:318 (1660): That the Lord God is able perfectly to redeem from sin in this life; that he can cast out the strong man [Mat 12:29], cleanse the house [2 Chr 29:15f], and make it fit for himself to dwell in; that he can finish transgression and sin in the heart, and bring in everlasting righteousness [Dan 9:24]; that he can tread down Satan under the feet of his saints [Rom 16:20GB], and make them more than conquerors over him [Rom 8:37]; this they confess they steadily believe.
RBA 228, RBAF 169 (1678, IX.4): ...the apostle makes uses of this supposition or possibility of his being a castaway [1 Cor 9:27] ... as an inducement to him to be watchful.... Nevertheless the same apostle, at another time, in the sense and feeling of God's holy power, and in the dominion thereof, finding himself a conqueror therethrough over sin and his soul's enemies, maketh no difficulty to affirm: "For I am persuaded that neither death nor life," &c. [Rom 8:38f], which clearly showeth that he had attained a condition, from which he knew he could not fall away.
[Other texts citing Rom 8:39: IP4:352 (Heb 13:5)]
MFU 422 (to William Penn, 1677): Friends are very much gladded, & refreshed in the Lord, hereaways on thy behalf, for that thou hast had a tender care over Friends, in this thy great travels, & journeys, but it is neither sea nor land, height nor depth, that can separate from the Love of God [Rom 8:39], which is in Christ Jesus our Lord, which he hath shed abroad in the hearts of his people [Rom 5:5].
HPS 185 (Katharine Evans, prisoner of the Inquisition, 1662): He said, that he would lay me in a whole pile of chains, where I should see neither sun nor moon. I said, he could not separate me from the love of God in Christ Jesus [Rom 8:39], lay me where he would.
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